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john boehner is advocating is making medicare available to fewer americans. as it happens, there is brand-new polling out today on how americans feel about the idea of congress using these deficit negotiations to make cuts to medicare. 79% of americans say they do not want congress to touch medicare in these deficit negotiations. 79%. if you want to get specific about john boehner's proposal, what he wants to do to medicare is to raise the eligibility age from 65 to 67. and as it turns out, there is also recent polling on that specific proposal. and it is also super unpopular. look at this. almost 70% of americans say they oppose raising the eligibility age for medicare. that number is slightly higher among republicans than it is for the general population. more republicans oppose john boehner's plan than the already extremely high margin of the general public that opposes john boehner's plan. now, if you're following the news very closely in this slow-motion, groundhog day-esque political negotiation, maybe you already knew that john boehner wants to raise the medicare el
the interest of the middle class and the protection of social security, medicare and medicaid for the people who are in such desperate need of those great programs that are the hallmark of our country. we have repeatedly said and our caucus again just confirmed that job creation equals deficit reduction, and we must put the country back to work. we have proposals that are on the floor. we still believe that even with the -- what little time remains and what little time remains when we're actually working, this is still possible. this is still doable. this is not a democrat or republican issue. republicans believe that america needs to go back to work. it's just a matter of having the will to do it, the programs are out there. compromise can be made around the streamlining of regulations to make sure that we are putting people back to work. if chris christy and barack obama can get -- chris cristie and barack obama can get together on that, and i know what's transpired and how the impact of our infrastructure has taken place along the eastern seaboard, it's something we ought to be able to ra
in medicare, not necessarily see changes that republicans -- >> i don't believe that, how about obamacare. >> you might see -- >> come on! >> tiny. are you kidding me? >> i tell you, if it goes the way i fear it might be, better no deal than a bad deal. either way, credit rating anxieties will pouncagencywill a ponderosa buffet. it is not going to be pretty. >> be prepared for a fiscal cliff, a bad deal -- none of those guys on the republican side -- >> i think look back at your bestsellers and have a tinge of guilt that road you to publish publishing fame are wel lusivern pin stripes. >> they are good guys. >> you called them worms. >> they are good guy worms. >> i hate you. >> all right. >> i love you all. neil: i wish we had more time. any cuts are dead on arrival, he'll be here, so is ralph nad nader. lashing back about how u.s. companies are taking money out, wait until you hear him let her rip. >> but first the democrat who demanded a voice and got one, did he get an answer? we'll ask. governor jack markel. you stl think yore colder thane? nah. don tell me. tell tiny! [ ice crackli
of dollars from medicare and medicaid short change the people who need it the most. if you don't want seniors to come up empty, call your members of congress and tell them don't make a bad deal that cuts our care. neil: if that doesn't tell you real cuts are not coming, neighbor 101 democratic congressman want not to cut social security could drop a hint coming days after the national black cause cues coming further urging all entitlements, not just social security, be left off the cliff talks. you wonder why i fear we had headed for the cliff fast. welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. that's really the deal this week. no deal this week. hence, that if one of the seriously coming behind closed doors, it's one that risks closing off needed cuts. now that democrats keep taking so much off the table, i don't know about you, but the only concrete thing from washington is pretty much how much to hike taxes, not how much to cut spending. should that worry us? it's a deal so disportioned in raising taxes and not cutting spending, what then? a lot of pressure to keep the gravy train running. what if
and those who vitally depend on things like social security and medicare and medicaid. they should consider who won and who needs to be considered here. why? because the nobodies is the big shots like they call them also have a stake in how this deal gets cut. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >>> change, chris, and a thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, holiday spirit gop style. later tonight, gop leaders are expected at the white house for a christmas party. it should be a festive event. maybe they will share some egg nog with the president. maybe sing some christmas carols. maybe some good cheer will be in the air, or maybe not. it might be a bit tough after the republican's new debt offer. for weeks they have called the white house plan a nonstarter. the gop republican in the senate reportedly laughed out loud, the leader of the gop and the senate laughed out loud when he heard about the president's plan and today speaker boehner said the white house plan was a, quote, a la-la land offer. well, earlier to
specially on medicare eligibility, raising it by two years. david, if that's the framework, what is your response? >> this is a total betrayal for the people who voted for obama. it's what a lot of people have been worried about. people who make $100 million a year salary, 80 of them in the country pay the same rate as someone who makes $40,000. there should be more tax rates. secondly, raising the medicare age, it's a terrible thing to do. it doesn't save money, it costs money. for people who don't have office jobs like we do, it's a death sentence for them. this is awful. obama won by 5 million votes. 3 million vote margin for bush in 2008. a margin of one in 2000 where he lost the popular vote and the republicans are saying the man has a mandate. we must give him what he wants. i'm sorry, he has a mandate, do what it is. people have been calling on the phone and writing saying stand firm or we'll put other people in next time around. >> we were talking about this before. i wonder, is there a way of looking at this where it's part of the political process, part of the negotiating proce
in medicare. we can cannot just, you know, throw out the safety nets for the average american. they have got to come to some agreement about tax cuts and some of the other areas. the president has offered to do that. he's put, you know, possible tax cuts on the table. we've got to look and see if we can combine not only the tax rate increase with some loophole closings that perhaps will even make up to the 39.6. so there's a lot of ways we can go with this. but let me just warn everybody about this. and that is, that we're not going to support the idea that entitlements are going to be substantially done in or reduced. >> so they are on the table? >> social security is not on the table. >> congresswoman maxine waters of california, thank you so much for spending your time today. >> you're welcome. >>> much more now on the jobs report. joining me is former economic adviser to vice president joe biden, jared bernstein, and ron insana. you heard the speaker and his comments moments ago. this is good for the president, the jobs report, no doubt. he can argue that, my policies have been working,
't hurt the fragile economic recovery in the short term and let's deal with protecting medicare and deficit reduction for the long term. >> there's a piece in the "new york times" talking about the president's new negotiate i want aing style. it said mr. obama scattered by failed negotiations in his first term and emboldened by his re-election has shown to be a dlimp different negotiate or. the white house reminded people what the president basically campaigned on saying that everybody knew going in what they were getting re-lecting th this stifle president. does he walk with confidence of re-election under his belt and is this the way it's going to go, nor mr. nice guy approach? >> i think the president believes very strongly that we can't repeat the mistakes of the past. that going back to tax cuts for the wealthiest americans, hoping that trickles down the rest of us have failed us for well over a decade. what we need to do instead is be serious about protecting the middle class and the republicans agree with that. don't hold those tax breaks for millionaires hostage. let's
are saying, "oh, we've got to cut social security. we've got to cut medicare. we've got to cut medicaid." there is no other option. so i give you that just as an example of how corporate media throws out one set of ideas, where the american people are thinking that jobs are probably more important. >> it has probably not escaped your attention that the mantra "fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff" is played out every night on the evening news and the corporate news. what does that say to you? that you'd get "fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff," but not "job crisis, job crisis, job crisis"? >> it tells me, quite frankly, that many of these people, who by the way did not have much to say about the deficit when we went to war in iraq and afghanistan and didn't pay for it, i didn't hear from any people in the media complaining about that. what it tells me is that behind the corporate drive for deficit reduction is a significant effort to try to cut social security, medicare, and medicaid and other programs that working families need, not so much because of deficit reduction, because this has be
said i'm willing to do that in order to get serious cuts to social security and medicare. bye-bye [ applause ] >> stephanie: senator lindsay graham. >> i met with jim demint this morning, and to say i was stunned is an understatement. he has always been a friend somebody i could count on. we have really enjoyed our time together. >> wait a minute go back. >> stephanie: once again, another stunned moment for me! vapors. >> we had some wonderful times together. >> something tells me that lindsay graham has clutched some pearls before. >> as god as my witness i will never go hungry again. >> compared to jim demint is a stark-raving mad liberal. >> stephanie: and senator harry reid. >> i have always liked the guy, and even though i disagree with so much of what he has done i appreciate -- i personally believe he does this out of a sense of real belief. i like jim demint and wish him well. [ inaudible ] >> stephanie: all right. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: stop it. stop it. he comes out of a belief that he deserves to make more money. >> yeah. [ bell chimes ] [ appla
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-- >> stephanie: these two guys, whatever their names are they said despite sweeping changes to medicare and medicaid, paul ryan's budget didn't make deep enough cuts to entitlement. those guys. yeah, that wasn't quite mean enough. [ applause ] >> i would be surprised if boehner kept his leadership position in the next congress. >> stephanie: really? >> yeah. because he's not -- >> stephanie: i picture eric cantor rubbing his hands together like snidely whiplash. >> he can't keep the caucus together. the republicans are famous for staying together. he can't keep them together. >> flabbergasted! >> that's doing a bad job. >> stephanie: he's flabbergasted at his own caucus. [mumbling] >> stephanie: by the way doesn't he get drunker every day? hey, john in new jersey, go ahead. >> caller: i'm john weston and i'm dyslexic. i thought what they did in congress was a national tragedy. i did -- the thing i'm saying is these republicans really look like they're totally nuts. and one thing i will tell you is i'm still dealin
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in savings over a decade. that includes raging the eligibility age for medicare from 65 to 67. and lowering cost of living increases for social security benefits. they also propose overhauling the tax code to generate $800 billion in new revenue. but without raising taxes on the wealthy. in a letter to the president, leading republicans compared their plan to one erskine bowles drew up last year. >> not even close. >> he rejected that connection and the white house, of course, is hitting the road. we'll get to that in a moment. but here's my question. i've been watching the coverage of this and reading it. and there's a lot of liberals who were like, he won, ha, ha, they're so arrogant about it, it's hard to like them. because it's just not attractive. but he did -- >> yeah, he won. >> and he is going to the american people with this. and why can't the starting point of these negotiations be about the tax rates and go from there. why are we at square one? and why is this on the president at this point? since he won. i understand the first four years being kind of bruising. >> right. >> but
that stood out to us was $600 billion in proposed savings in medicare reforms. how? in part by raising the age of eligibility to 65 to maybe 67. turning down the gop proposal, dan pfieffer said, quote, it provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will close or which medicare savings they would achieve." let's head now to the white house and dan lothian. the white house will not offer a counter proposal, right? what's going on here? >> reporter: well, you know, i think the white house is digging in. the president said early on in this process that he would only sit down and really move forward, negotiate on this in any meaningful way if the tax hikes for the wealthy expired. and republicans have been pushing back on that -- tax breaks rather for the wealthy expired and republicans have been pushing back on that, say they go believe that will be harmful for the economic recovery because wealthy americans are the ones who are creating the jobs and helping to turn this economy around. that remains the big sticking point. those bush era tax cuts, whi
. they would cut medicare. they would cut $600 -- medicare meaning they would raise the age eligibility from 65 to 67. they would cut $600 billion in unspecified cuts. they'll cut spending. they don't tell us where. but it's not defense spending. those are social programs. they would cut another $800 billion or raise $800 billion in revenues they say by closing loopholes and getting rid of deductions. but again they don't tell where. what loopholes they would close. is it the mortgage interest deduction? we don't know. they do not specify. so again it is a lot -- it is filled with vague promises but here's the big difference. notice what is not included and what they say they will not do. they will not raise tax rates. they will not raise taxes on the top wealthiest 2% of americans. they say no way. no how will that be included. they're dead wrong. they're wasting time. when i saw that proposal yesterday, to coin a word, you know what my reaction was? i was flabbergasted! oh, my god. i was flabbergasted. >> thank you
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i'm willing to do stuff on entitlements. there's talk about raising medicare age, the social security cost of living adjustment, but boehner is just stuck in this corner on rates. >> hey, mike barnicle, we're talking about the president right now because a lot of us believe, you know, that's where the buck stops, and that's where you get the negotiations going. we don't want to overlook, though, a new "washington post"/pew research poll that shows americans are blaming the problems of these negotiations on republicans. 53% are blaming congressional republicans. 27% are blaming barack obama. 12% are blaming both equally republicans are shouldering the blame by a 2-1 margin. and of those polled, 49% don't expect a deal to be reached by a deadline compared to 40% who do. here we have, again, a serious problem with republican branding. and branding comes from reality. people -- their natural instinct is to blame the republican party when standoffs like this occur. >> i'm surprised the number of 53% is that low. i would think it would be much higher than that. people get their new
, more people are out of work. it means that we do not have money to pay for basic benefits like medicare and social security. it is important to talk about deductions and tax policy in terms of tax reform. john boehner opened the door for that. president obama has indicated no intention of looking at that. host: what deductions would you put on the table? guest: tax reform is not to raise revenue. is to make the tax code less of a drag on the economy. we do that by lowering tax rates and getting rid of some deductions, exemptions, credits. but we do not do it to raise revenue. host: chuck marra, how important our deductions? guest: they are very important. if you get into this notion that they are loopholes, then you look at the very popular deductions the people rely on. they're trying to balance the economic weakness with the long-term needs of the economy, which is that we do face a future of deficits that are unsustainable. we are trying to stabilize the debt has a share of our economy over time. that means about $4 trillion in savings. the good news is, last year, the congress and t
on tax rates so that we can get a better deal that can address medicare, address some of the things we care about. you don't buy that and don't think it's the right approach? >> i don't think this president is willing to deal. i haven't seen anything in this president's four years or since the election that he's really interested in fundamentally. he is addicted to spending. he's a spending addict. the problem is we have a lot of spending addicts on capitol hill, republicans and democrats. so we need a real radical intervention here. if you got an addiction, you've got to do something radical to pull that person back. >> does he have have the leverage though? >> he does. >> get the greatest tax increase? >> the greatest leverage he has he put together a deal with the republicans a year ago that gives him pretty much what he wants. taxes back to the pre-bush rates. he gets all tax increases and can blame the ones not popular on republicans for not negotiating. he gets something he'll never get, never get in a negotiation. if you look at the spending cuts, half out of defense, half out o
-- the spending cuts on medicare. why don't we allow them to negotiate medicare and to reduce the cost of medicine? that should save you a lot of money yearly. i agree totally about the republicans and democrats spending money stupidly just before the election. both sides voted to refurbish something like 170 army tanks that the army said they'd do not need. they went and voted to repair those tanks. why are we wasting our money? democrats want to cut taxes. host: armstrong williams? guest: we haven't gotten to affordable care and medicare and medicaid. if affordable care was administered correctly and if he did not have the special interest groups and if tort reform was not included, package you move forward in making health care work for anyone if you do not bring tort reform to the table? the medical malpractice lawsuits are out of control where doctors are paranoid and have to think twice before going through these procedures. it becomes a nightmare for doctors. there are too many hands in the pot. the mentality in washington is that everybody has to get paid so they can be compensated. when a
don't slash medicare we're going to end up like greece. well, that's just stupid. >> stephanie: yeah. but you know this is what i have been talking about all morning. and i couldn't stop playing that clip for you from david gregory. sunday after the election should the president bring in mitt romney to negotiate the fiscal cliff. maybe the fact that grover norquist has a seat at the table, as if he won this election. >> i can see putting him in there, but the party is at least pretending to run away from him right now. >> stephanie: right. >> for all of the people who are running away from him, i think we should notice we are essentially arguing to bring the top marginal rate back up into the lower 30s. >> stephanie: exactly. i love the way you state. you say i have said it more than once it's not the president's job to tame john boner's tax reform um. he has no obligation to water these down just to get a deal down just for the sake of appearances. i mean that's exactly it. the president has more leverage than he obviously had last summer. >> and -- and -- if boehn
and adjustments to medicare, social security and other mandatory programs. the white house says it does not pass the test of balance and sticks the middle class with the bill. nancy pelosi will file the discharge position that we talked about yesterday, and that would force a vote for the bush tax cuts. the new "washington post" pugh research poll say 58% of those asked say it would be the republicans fault if we go over the fiscal cliff. and that shows all this back and forth isn't doing house gop any good. we're back after the break. alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. rich, chewy caramel rolled up in smooth milk chocolate. don't fo
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. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. ♪ open enrollment ends december 7th. so now's the time. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare. >>> time for the media monitor. weekly look at the hits and errors in the new business. >>> haven't talked much about glenn beck since he left fox news. look what we have been missing. he cooked a barack obama doll in a jar of fake urine. not making it up. he was making a point about extreme art. what about respect for the presidency, stay classy, glen. >>> google had acquired a wi-fi provider named icoa for $400 million. the source, a press release. the story? a fabrication. icoa is investigating that hoax. the fake release was posted on pr web and some news outlets thought it was good enough to report without so much as phone call or e-mail to confirm it was the real deal. >>> the media over in the people's republic may be humor impaired. they ra
in washington negotiate a bad deal on the bucket and deficit, what do you think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits. >> it stars two senator and two republican reps. cnn reports the labor unions are spending more than a half of million dollars on this round of spots. we're back with more steph after the break. stay with us. ♪ going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: okay. and as we mentioned, unemployment numbers. hello! [ ♪ patriotic music ♪ ] >> stephanie: the lowest in four years. >> wow! >> stephanie: it has dropped to 7.7%. >> you're welcome america, i did that. >> no, you didn't. >> stephanie: right. [ applause
for the top 2% and the extension of the medicare act and capital income. under the president's preferred tax policy, the top rate would go from 35% to 49.9% and for ordinary income from 15% to 25%. the long-term consequences of president obama's tax policies would have a profound and negative affect. capital stock would fall. fewer jobs and lower wages resulting in higher taxes would harm the middle class. data reveals three important facts of high income earners. the taxes on the wealthy raise as much faster than on everyone else during economic booms, but they also fall much faster during economic bust. people report more income when tax rates are low and not when they are high. there are better ways to increase federal revenues than hiking tax rates. congress could enact a program of tax reform that would lower rates and eliminate interest reductions. the president could open up more federal lands and offshore areas for energy exploration. his administration could take a more balanced approach to new regulations. economic growth can help solve our fiscal problems if the economy had grown
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and medicare. humbug, indeed. that's the christmas message from speaker boehner. "hardball" with chris matthews is next. >>> in the belly of the beast. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris mam ewes in washington. let me start tonight with some grave robbing. we're going gown to the dark, cold tomb of the late romney campaign. we're going to excavate the murky truths that were the living heart and mind of the defeated republican effort. going to exhume tonight the guts of the thinking that went on and went so wrong. tonight, we get what we only guessed at, the results of which played out in the numbers of election night. the nasty, anti-immigrant politics, the attitude toward that 47%, the failure to turn out the white male vote, the reason romney picked ryan and the wild prelude to the clipt eastwood performance. tonight on "hardball," the dark arona of what lies now beneath the dirt so we can understand what it looks like, to think and feel your way into a historic disaster. with me are jeff zeleny with "the new york times" and susan milligan who is contributing editor at ""u
to assess seniors that save $5 billion because of the medicare prescription drug program. demi thinking, well, if senior save 5 billion, where those savings come from? to that's a lot of money. i checked with major pharmaceutical company financial statements and most of them had seen steadily increasing revenues of the last four years. so they weren't short of the 5 billion. even though they say they're discounting prescription drugs for medicare, it doesn't appear it is negative impact of their revenue. so does it mean the drug companies made up by charging youuand me more for our prescriptions? i don't know the answer because i suspect
territory. to be truthful, this assumes that all the federal -- all the social security revenues, medicare revenues are getting spent on other projects rather than going in the trust fund and being preserved. we didn't really have a surplus. we were spending social security and medicare revenues to create a surplus. but we did have some better years then. then we go into the bush years. this is important. 9/11 changed the way this country deals with national security. a lot of programs going on much to my surprise, mr. speaker, you remember, we create add brand new federal department with the republican house, republican senate, and republican president. we created a brand new entitlement program, medicare part d with a republican house and republican president. and we ran during the bush years, and represented right here, we ran at that time what was the largest deficit in american history. the largest deficit in american history were run during the bush administration with republican house, republican president. and we began to get a hold of that. that was after 2001, september 11 again,
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